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in this environment based on what we know. i think we have to take the mantle of security from the nra, they have been telling a story about how guns make you safer. i think joy just gave us some national data about how depending on how you regulate guns, they may make you much less safe. so as a community, as a community, as a nation and community, we have to think seriously about that and i'm going to just use a prop. you said we shouldn't call mr. lapierre crazy. the "new york post" owned by rupert murdoch has the front page today calling him gun nut. >> mr. rupert who is -- >> this is important, not because any of us want to make him subhuman or really hurt him, but this is coming from a conservative place where many conservatives are standing up saying it is nutty. >> a point that we try to make a lot, you have to make a distinction between nra members and the nra leadership. we have frank luntz do a poll of nra members. he's no shrinking daisy or crazy lefty like some of you. >> some. i think it's a great point. i just want to show one quick thing before we go to another break. there was an amaz
and halt the radical agendas off republicans in north carolina. to protect the state's environment, you vetoed a bill for hydraulic fracking. and you also vetoed a bill that would have increased insurance cost for teachers. to shield homeowners you extended the state's emergency foreclosure program. i know it has been hard. i know you have often lost, but you did not shy a wway from fighting the difficult battles when issues of fairness and justice were on the line which is why, as you prepare to leave office next week, i'm going to ask you to take up one last cause and to use the power of your office to do what only you can do. governor perdue, it is time to par d pardon the wilmington ten. as you know 1972 nine african-american men and one white woman were wronglily convicted of firebombing a store. most of them were teenagers ats the time, and despite shaky evidence, the musics and student activists were sentenced to 282 years in prison. governor perdue, you must stated that there is nobody in america who could say that trial was fair or that there wasn't some kind of undercurrent or
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